Fuel price increases!!

40 odd to the gallon, absolute manic flying machine and is rode as designed.. Bm S1000XR
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mmm-five said:
My dad had to get rid of all his bikes - over a decade or so - as each one became more difficult to ride with his ailing health.

We also bought lots of equipment to keep him warm as he was suffering more and more from circulation problems, and the vibration from some of his big singles/twins was turning his fingers white and setting his neck/shoulder pain off.

First issue was that he couldn't use the kickstart anymore (we built an electric-powered device that spun the rear wheel instead, but that meant he had to complete his trip in one sitting as couldn't stop for a break anywhere).

Then he couldn't get his leg over the seat so we tried some of the 600cc+ scooters which he couldn't get on with as they didn't feel balanced going around corners.

Then he found he couldn't always support the weight of the bike when he had to put a foot down at traffic lights, so he tried a trike - but missed the leaning he got on 2 wheels; and finally he tried a 3-wheeler that had 2 wheels at the front and one at the rear - but by that time he had just lost the desire to go out on bikes.

After about 10 years, he'd finally disposed of all of his bikes: Ariel Square Four, Ariel Arrow, Arial Leader, Triumph Tiger, Triumph Spitfire, Triumph Bonneville, BSA Rocket, BSA Goldstar, BSA Bantam, and a Yamaha Virago that he bought as it was lower and had electric start. There was also a Triton at one stage, a Sunbeam or two and maybe a Royal Enfield, but he had a phase of buying and selling before he started just buying stuff he'd ridden when younger.

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iv had both those triumphs, i actually loved my t90, but i never rode it, only on show run out days
 
I don't know about the UK or Europe, but here in the US, State, Federal and local taxes are a big part of prices at the pump.
 
Guinn said:
I don't know about the UK or Europe, but here in the US, State, Federal and local taxes are a big part of prices at the pump.
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Oh yes, in the UK we have some of the highest fuel tax in the world. Currently 57%. There are two taxes levied on fuel. The government tax, then VAT at 20%. So we are taxed on the tax. The UK is just the best.
In fact, one way or another, we are taxed on just about everything. And they still have never got enough money to spend on anything useful.

The current left-wing Government want to just throw more money at the 'poor' people who have never worked a day, or contributed anything to our economy. See...the UK is the best.
 
Pond said:
Oh yes, in the UK we have some of the highest fuel tax in the world. Currently 57%. There are two taxes levied on fuel. The government tax, then VAT at 20%. So we are taxed on the tax. The UK is just the best.
In fact, one way or another, we are taxed on just about everything. And they still have never got enough money to spend on anything useful.

The current left-wing Government want to just throw more money at the 'poor' people who have never worked a day, or contributed anything to our economy. See...the UK is the best.
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Ah yes, UK fuel tax where you buy petrol, then buy the tax, then pay VAT on the privilege of buying the tax. A beautifully circular system, very sustainable, very thought through. We’re taxed when we earn, taxed when we spend, taxed when we move, and taxed again for complaining about it. And somehow the coffers are still mysteriously empty. It’s almost impressive. World‑leading, even. 🤔
 
And when we have paid all of the tax on the tax, we pay more tax to use the fuel on the road (RFL). And we pay insurance tax to be legal on the road.
And then we pay 20% VAT whenever we pay to park anywhere.

Even parking at home is taxed.....council tax. My council tax is extortionate!
 
Where do @Pond 's tax pounds go I wonder?

Well. Even though Boris Johnson spent well over £100K on refurbing the Downing street flat the current PM still managed to squeeze in 3 new Sofas at over a grand each, a new big screen telly and a £1630 quid on a new shower screen ? - I mean, it's a sheet of glass for chr's sake. Maybe Boris took the old one with him when he left. Of course the PM stayed 'just' under the £30K limit for fear of a repeat of Boris's 'WallpaperGate'.

But all that is just a spit in the ocean - Look at the £3.85 million (yes, I'll say that again, 3.85 million pounds) spent just by the Foreign, commonwealth and Development Office on travel expenditure. ie taking private jets even though the route and timing was perfectly well served by commercial airlines. For example, David Lammy's trip to the G20 in South Aftrica £292,917 pounds.

C'mon Pond. Get working and paying more tax. We can't expect our hard working ministers to slum it in first class on a commercial Airline - they need the whole private jet to put their feet up.
 
Also, if the billionaire tax dodgers who fund the Reform Party paid tax fairly in the UK then ordinary working citizens wouldn't have to shoulder so much tax. For example,Christopher Harbourne donated £10 million to Reform in 2025 alone. He lives in Thailand. Wonder why he and others like him are bank rolling Reform ???
 
Speaking of taxes.. April is Income Tax time here. I received a tax form.from my life insurance company stating they had distributed the amount of a policy to me for which no tax was withheld. Now I'm no insurance expert. but I'm.pretty sure any money from a life insurance policy covering my demise would go to whomever was listed as beneficiary. In addition. the said policy was, I thought, cancelled nearly 25 years ago, when I divorced my first wife. The bottom line is , I am liable for tax on $10K proceeds allegedly distributed to me
, despite rumors of my demise being greatly exaggerated. I checked my pulse, and I do.have one . I can also say without fear of contradiction that I am sure I would remember receiving a check for $10K. Now I have to deal with the taxman to refile my taxes and explain why I should not have to pay tax on this phantom $10k. Withnthe cost of gasoline where it is, I could use that money...
 
I'd be delighted to be paying some of the prices quoted on the thread. Oh an the heating is oil too 😬

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It'll not be long till it's £3. It's rising daily and the only other station in town raises to match it each time 🤬 next nearest about hour away 🤷‍♂️
 
i paid £2.07 a lt for diesel the other day as i needed to get to work. i had no choice other than play the ''0 miles to empty game'' which in a diesel isnt good or easy if you do actually run out.
said to the cashier, bit expensive dont ya think, she said, yeah but you and everyone else is paying....
 
elevensies said:
i paid £2.07 a lt for diesel the other day as i needed to get to work. i had no choice other than play the ''0 miles to empty game'' which in a diesel isnt good or easy if you do actually run out.
said to the cashier, bit expensive dont ya think, she said, yeah but you and everyone else is paying....
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One of the most effective protests would be to get everyone to be ready for a no-fuel day, have the no-fuel day, then fill as usual the following day.

It would send their logistics into meltdown.
 
Pingu said:
One of the most effective protests would be to get everyone to be ready for a no-fuel day, have the no-fuel day, then fill as usual the following day.

It would send their logistics into meltdown.
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It wouldn't make a s*** of difference. Just give the journalists an easy day of news.

What WOULD make a significant difference IMO, is if everyone voted 'none of the above' in the local (or National) elections. This Country (in fact all of the Western world) is so obsessed by 'politics' and 'politicians' that they wouldn't know what to do. Even the journalists are obsessed with it.
The King would have to assume rule, which he would have no idea how to.

It would be a 'hard reset', making way for people who are not 'career politicians' and have knowledge of the real world.

If the above happened (and I would love to see it), the Country would run as normal in the interim, as the millions of un-elected Government employees would carry on as usual. The financial markets would melt, but maybe we should sack those money-grabbing arseholes too?
 
Unelected government employees. They're the ones acrually (mis)running the country. The MPs just spend their days having digs at each other. None of the elected MPs would dare go to their office to make changes to how the unelected staff work for fear of being accused of bullying. Can't tell staff what to do y'know.

Around 300 of them unelected staff work at No 10 downing street and it was them having the parties during covid lockdown. And, being permanent staff, they still have their jobs. Only around 3 or 4 MPs work in No 10, not enough for a knees-up so they wouldn't be missed and the permanent staff could have another party. Although I don't know who the media would steer us into blaming for partygate2. The cat maybe.
 
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